Sorry about the early prediction GK. May be a bit of bottle variance with that one, but yes, I didn't go and find it - cos Mozzy's is a bit of a treck from here. May have had an oddish metalic note as well.

Cheap ones can be hard, a little green, and over savoury

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Err ....hang on

I rated the 08. GK is crying over the 09.

The 08 was very chalky and savoury. Too chalky if anything.

G ~ Thanks for correcting me - I'm a bit out of sorts. Talk about that later, on the email

Thanks.

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I've just seen the 08 on clearance offer at one of my co-ops for £4
Queues were to long for me to bother giving it a go today but I'll stop by there tomorrow

Given it 2 days, better on day 2 but Gk hit the nail right on the head here
Dry (and chalky to give goose a tn credit)with a little bitter cherry

I would imagine this is what you'd get for €1-2 as a house wine in provincial France

How did this get a IWC Gold award?! Steer clear people!

Indeed.

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Bugger.....I thought it was nice. Mine were savoury, almost pinoty as well as chalky.

Oh well

I'll be in the corner then for the rest of the week

each to their own Goose...

I didn't like the CdR Reserve that GK and Richard enjoyed either.

Have a bottle of each that are going back to Co-op tonight
Either to be substituted with something else or more likely refunded and then I'll stop at my local Londis that have the Palo Alto Reserve for £4.15 a bottle

I cant comment on the '08 as I havent tried it, the '09 was poor IMO.

I find it hard to believe the difference between the two vintages would be so substantial that the '08 gets a Gold award, was '08 an exceptional vintage for the region? I cant find anything to back that up.

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'08 was not exceptional for cab franc at Loire latitudes -on the face of it, that award is "all about face" unless the Cab franc was grown in a particulary good climat a local micro climat south facing sheltered vineyard. The CF sometimes doesn't ripen enough to make anything other than rather hard and furry on the gums. Whilst 2009 was a warmer growing season with an Indian summer at harvest time in northern France and southern England.

So.......

It don't make sense on paper ?

But .... I did find '08 chenin blanc to be much more dimensional than '09 from the shale and sheltered north bank......yeah miro climat effect, that Vouvray demi sec I like for instance. - So....... go figure ! Praps the decent stuff went elsewhere, and the 09 dross for the bulk wine was worse than 'as it comes off the harvester' '08 fruit.

As Ba would say - "Just drink it and find out"

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...Just make sure it's not this that you drink !!

My neighbours go sailing from La Rochelle every year. They very kindly brought me back 2 each Saumur, Saumur Champ. and Thourassais. Just couldn't tell them, but passed them on.

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Four wheels move the body - 2 wheels move the soul.

Ahhh, La Rochelle, I once camped there for a month.

Happy memories, young and free......

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Thourassais.

Not a drop of this has ever passed my lips. Did you look it up, out of interest ? Are Fontenay and St Hilaire regional wines there, rings a bell. Stayed for a brilliant fortnight on Ile de Re' in 1991.

La Rochelle, the most glittering harbour for high tech, high spec blue water sailing yachts in Europe. A starting point or finishing point for the Azores and then all the way across. Serious stuff, serious dosh, also serious offshore racing.

I'm sorry your neighbours aren't next door here it's always best to sample some of the delicious regional wines, when bought in stores in neighbouring territory, rather than suffer bulk UK offerings on clearance.

Then we'd properly find out about Loire Cab Franc '09. Well.... I would

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I must confess. I'm oddly attracted to reds that you chaps describe as being too savoury.

The savoury the better for me. In fact, I mostly like Chilean Pinot as the sub £10 stuff is more gamey than Burgundy at the same price.

I am sure I could fall in love with an aged Burgundy that smells and tastes of the farmyard.

I've just never had one......

Not sure I could give up my thorny fruit bushes for them though