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Author:  Bacchus [ Sat May 15, 2010 5:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Very Thirsty Angels

Had an unexpected visitor last night, and threw a bottle of white in the freezer for a while. Then we went to the pub, and I forgot about the wine until this morning. It was a screw closure and the wine was solid when I transferred it to the fridge. It has now thawed, but about 20 % is missing. Where has it gone??

Author:  Duncan [ Sat May 15, 2010 7:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Very Thirsty Angels

Freezer Gremlins

Haha,
The scew cap seal must have been broken.

With corked Cava / sparkling, the expansion normally pushes the cork up, or if the wire holds, you take out a split heavy bottle neck. I haven't seen this for years. Last time was in Quimper in 1991 or so. Like you, we forgot :roll:

Author:  GK [ Sun May 16, 2010 7:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Very Thirsty Angels

Perhaps the bottle expanded.

Same amount of wine, bigger bottle?

Author:  Duncan [ Sun May 16, 2010 11:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Very Thirsty Angels

Is that a joke GK ? Or a bottle of wine later :wink:

Coefficient of thermal expansion for cheap bottle glass is 1.00009 to 1 for 10C movement. Pyrex about 1.00003

How was that Belleruche to your taste buds ?

Author:  GK [ Mon May 17, 2010 9:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Very Thirsty Angels

Duncan wrote:
Is that a joke GK ? Or a bottle of wine later :wink:

Coefficient of thermal expansion for cheap bottle glass is 1.00009 to 1 for 10C movement. Pyrex about 1.00003

How was that Belleruche to your taste buds ?


Can confirm tongue was firmly in cheek.

Belleruche? Hotter and dryer than the Kalahari. Decent fruit, plum skin, cherry. I see the attraction but it’s not my style, as with Bordeaux its all structure and grit. I have always thought there needs to be a good dollop of sweetness in any red to balance 14.5% alc, very dry wines with high alcohol are a chore to drink alone and are best with food.

I guess I just have to concede I’m a New World red guy, softer wines with layered, sweet fruit.

Author:  Duncan [ Mon May 17, 2010 10:31 am ]
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Damn, that blasted 14.5 is a pain in the preverbial.

The Chartreuse de Bonpas was 14% and a bit less grouty. But yes, I, We take your point entirely. Seems that down in the dusty ole Rhone valley when the fruit is ripe, the resultant Muste goes to 14.5 unless they stop it, in which case it can go a tad jammy - Compromise is not sought because New World folks are drinking 15% from parts of OZ :!:

I did enjoy a 2005 Le Prestige D' Andre' Roux CdR Village from Laithy about three weeks ago with a great wine buddy of mine - he bought it. It was lovely with supper and only 13.5% and not sweet, but plenty of structure (not hard mouthed though GK)........But you may shudder at the price for what is a village rhone wine ! I don't know the money, but I was told it was extra dosh

Damn, another one goes into room 101 for you.

Author:  Duncan [ Mon May 17, 2010 11:01 am ]
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No conceding yet GK - not allowed ......It occurs to me that you still have another Belleruche to drink - disco in pairs only. You'd better have it with mates fairly soon or BBQ, it ain't gonna sweeten up none.

Well, when I find a village rhone that agrees with you GK, you will be the 1st to know.

Author:  GK [ Mon May 17, 2010 9:37 pm ]
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Thanks D.

Fortunately there are plenty more to try!

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