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Good grief.....MrD
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Author:  Goosegogs [ Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Good grief.....MrD
Jaime Goode rates the 08 Montana basic as better than the 08 Cloudy Bay. He even had it for Christmas day.

Montana Sauvignon Blanc 2008 Marlborough, New Zealand - classic Marlborough Sauvignon. In this vintage, better than Cloudy Bay.

http://www.wineanorak.com/blog/

I promise...no more mention of MSB until the next mention
Author:  GK [ Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Good grief.....MrD
Get it while you can..

http://www.tesco.com/wine/product/detai ... =255244712

I have a theory that all MSB comes from the same cavernous, stainless steel tank.
Author:  Goosegogs [ Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Good grief.....MrD
Get it while you can

Dunc won't. He only had one glass of the 08. It burnt a hole in his tongue and 4 of his teeth fell out. The shocking tartness also gave him an uncontrollable wink and twitch.

On the brightside. Every time Dunc goes to pick Mrs Dunc up from evening classes ( Sumo wrestling and origami ) at the Berkshire WI, he pulls at least three pensioners and two single mums.

" I never could resist a man with a wink cum twitch " said 93 yr old Doris Doulally of 39 Puddled Terraces
Author:  Bacchus [ Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:05 pm ]
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Got a couple of Montana Ord at T on Monday after the Res tried to kill me. Was '09 though. Bob gives the '08 - 80 and the '09 - 86.
JG seems to laud Oyster Bay as well.
Author:  Duncan [ Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Good grief.....MrD
Hi Goose,

You sound well.

:D ...... :D ........ :D ....... :D

I certainly approve of this wine he enjoyed with (Cheese I hope) for Christmas lunch:
Lovely, although '90 is said to be better for noble rot:
Clos Baudoin Vouvray Aigle Blanc 'Vin Tris' 1989 Vouvray - even when out of form, this producer has made a long-lived, beguiling sweet Vouvray with real interest. Still tastes fresh and mineral. Should do, good for 25 years, but wrong vintage

Montana basic, may have dissipated some vitriol :wink: Bottle variance ? Later bottling from that cavernous SS tank ? Different batches ? I'm open to good opinion. Perhaps that guy likes sniffing current leaves, whilst getting a dose of acetic from the lab. Hard work. He's not completely stupid tho, Like me, he bought the Deval 2004 1er shampoo from Waitrose for a song Xmas 2008, see Blind tasting

:shock: That he preferred this over CB'08, qualifies him as one of the planet's endangered species - Great news for him tho, saves 11.50 on every bottle, normal retail. He then says in the next breath, that no one at the Xmas lunch, was particularly interested in what they consumed !

BTW, I gave the one CB'08 I bought from Sains for £12.75 with extra disco, as a pressie in a fancy wine bag - Kinda went down better for Xmas. I am unable to ever do a TN for it :(

Is he a Montana consultant by any chance ........Montana Reserve 2007 was most appreciated 18 months from release - and narrowly missed 2009 Budget Faves list along with 30 other very good wines.

Yep Ba - why look for '08 with any *SB label on it now ...........except may be JE, I'm a loyal soul.

JG seems to laud Oyster Bay as well - sad.
Author:  meljones [ Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:10 pm ]
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JG is a god in wine circles, but Oyster Bay???
Author:  Duncan [ Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:17 pm ]
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Yeah, there are many gods.

Frankly, I'd rather trust you lot, for opinion.

Yes - You lot have shown me some good'uns

Bravo Quaffers :roll:


Im off to drink that Antonin Rodet 2007 bourgogne for £4.25 with HM cheese and onion quiche, - a bit thin, and over acidic for the fruit, but £4 quid plus pennies is fine by me.

See ya
Author:  Shezza [ Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:07 pm ]
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Goosegogs wrote:
Jaime Goode rates the 08 Montana basic as better than the 08 Cloudy Bay. He even had it for Christmas day.

Montana Sauvignon Blanc 2008 Marlborough, New Zealand - classic Marlborough Sauvignon. In this vintage, better than Cloudy Bay.

http://www.wineanorak.com/blog/

I promise...no more mention of MSB until the next mention


funnily enuff I saw that earlier today. Was gonna mention it but you beat me to it.
Quite a mish mash of wines he had that day and decent volume. Not to mento. All the champers consumed after their blind tasting too
Author:  Bacchus [ Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:34 am ]
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meljones wrote:
JG is a god in wine circles, but Oyster Bay???

I've never had Oyster Bay and some of you lot give it nil. JG likes it..who am I to believe??
Author:  Shezza [ Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:02 am ]
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believe your own taste buds... at around a fiver it can't hurt to give it a go. If you don't like it use your higly honed mixology skills to make one of your wine hybrids ;)

of course, the fact that 2 guys here independently slate it must say something but beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it wouldn't be the first time there has been a disagreement here (just look at your Wairu Cove thread)
Author:  GK [ Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Good grief.....MrD
Bacchus wrote:
meljones wrote:
JG is a god in wine circles, but Oyster Bay???

I've never had Oyster Bay and some of you lot give it nil. JG likes it..who am I to believe??


Well, Im going to sling the pussy amongst the parrots and say I quite like OB. I dont buy it, there's always a bottle or two at BBQ's and knee's-ups to try.

Its a well made, fruit explosion of an SB with no discerning features. There's few better examples of its type for £6 on the high street but its not the best. That's where we come in. :wink:
Author:  Duncan [ Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:41 am ]
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GK wrote:
There's few better examples of its type for £6 on the high street but its not the best. That's where we come in. :wink:


Very nicely put GK.

JG, Ms Macquerky and others in the daily newspapers:

For me, amongst the high profile wine professionals, Jancis's opinion closely matches my taste for many interesting wines that we may afford. I particularly believe in her claret opinion. For Burgundy, where I push the boat out, I'd follow Allen Meadows first, and Mel :) , I like her burgundy and Rioja opinion a lot.

Oyster Bay:
A good intro to *SB, Oyster Bay was good in 2001, and again 2004, where it was always an easy choice on many tables. But later vintages '05 & '06 were dissapointing, I thought. So when I looked in here for more interesting *SB wines, I discovered an array of much more satisfying versions of the style.
Perhaps OB is back on some sort of form, I did not bother with their '07 offering, because you could find superior, The Reach '07 for less money and later JE'07 for similar money - so why OB, just because they have a bigger marketing budget. I don't suppose OB made a good fist of difficult '08 fruit....so why bother again.

Is OB back on form for 2009 ?

Mel says ok - BUT spritzy middle (very young wine) and flabby finish.
Goose says - Lame, no guts.

Is there a reason to buy because JG says so ?? I come here cos I want more that just OK. Also, and deliberately, I will seek out smaller producers. I'm looking for the taste of the wine, I'm not convinced by the size of the glossy adverts.

Bl**dy typical view point from me :wink:

As Shez - What do you say Ba ? Can you buy a cheap single to try.



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Author:  Shezza [ Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Good grief.....MrD
Maybe JG's not got it all wrong:

“One of my favourite NZ sauvignon blancs, this has lovely tropical fruit, brilliantly balanced by limey freshness. It’s not cheap, but worth every penny,” Jamie Goode, Sunday Express, 22 March 2009 (on Jackson Estate 2007 vintage)

Has anyone come across this before?:
http://www.tanners-wines.co.uk/TannersSite/product/New+World+Wines_New+Zealand/NW01708.htm

and so ends my MSB chat for today.....
Author:  Duncan [ Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Good grief.....MrD
One of my favourite NZ sauvignon blancs, this has lovely tropical fruit, brilliantly balanced by limey freshness. It’s not cheap, but worth every penny,” Jamie Goode, Sunday Express, 22 March 2009 (on Jackson Estate 2007 vintage)

Yeah, he's been reading Quaffers - Yeah, JE '007 ..

Green Lip for you Goose, is it different ?

Also this one:

Andre'Dezat & Fils - you been there Goose ?

Image

Great label to contemplate whilst you sup.

Me
Author:  Goosegogs [ Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:33 pm ]
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Never seen the Green Lip. How dare they spring this on us. Bastards !

Dezat is a good un'. At least the twice i've had it 03 and 06 it was good. Not staggeringly wonderful but classic Sancerre.

When i've seen it online it's usually been around the £13 mark. I'll stick with the Cailbourdin at M&S for £10.99.
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