meljones wrote:
I'm the opposite. I prefer almost all Riojas to RdDs. They're too full of themselves. Too big and hot and posh.
Exactly - just like me !!!
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| Author: | Shezza [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Spanish, non-Rioja Reds |
Just playing catch up on Mel's Articles..... still a few to read yet was interested reading the non Rioja Spanish Red one. Emilio Moro pitching in 3rd comes as a bit of a surprise. I bought a bottle of this and loved it. Kinda gutted I didn't buy more during the 25% off but they still have the buy 2 and get 20% off running so may look to pick up a couple. Big and meaty, in a way I like. Didn't find the alcohol hot either Drinks well now and will keep a good while I think I have to say I currently think that most examples of RdDs I've tried have been better than almost all Rioja examples. Problem is that few of them are exported to our shores and those that are are at more of a premium. Been meaning to give the Vina Mayor a go and now having seen it receive the thumbs up I'll be picking up a bottle. |
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| Author: | meljones [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spanish, non-Rioja Reds |
I'm the opposite. I prefer almost all Riojas to RdDs. They're too full of themselves. Too big and hot and posh. |
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| Author: | Shezza [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spanish, non-Rioja Reds |
meljones wrote: I'm the opposite. I prefer almost all Riojas to RdDs. They're too full of themselves. Too big and hot and posh. Exactly - just like me !!!
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| Author: | Duncan [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spanish, non-Rioja Reds |
meljones wrote: I'm the opposite. I prefer almost all Riojas to RdDs. They're too full of themselves. Too big and hot and posh. I have to say that I fall into the Mel camp. I dont think it is to do with a reaction to change (although sometimes readers would think so) - Sorry The whopping wines are difficult to taste , because they are so whopping and palate dominating, so you cant look inside them. In a Rioja there is nothing like, IMHO, a mature or a ready one that has elegance and finesse and a beautiful nose that keeps pouring out - even if you have a cold ! Shezza, of course you wont know how these have moved Up & Up the money tree. Not that long ago Tondonia and Ygay were not off the scale, and one coveniently forgot about them for a while.. Ygay white as well. It is many decades since Rioja's were liquidised oak, and anyway not all Bodegas made them that way. La Rioja Alta, a 2000 middle ranking one in the burgundy shaped bottle, was heavily discounted at Maj recently. A mature Tondonia can taste like very ripe strawberries and creamy oak, and is quite light in colour, although excellent body. I too wanted to have a go again with the Beasties (apropo Ba) but no one is saying how these will cellar, or are they. The old Yecca ones from Sunday Times WC don't appeal that much to me So until one knows - how can we tell  Perhaps this one: Our favourite was Gran Feudo Reserva 2003, which is £7.99 from Waitrose and comes from Navarra, which is near Rioja. It had an oaky, spicy nose and perhaps it was the American oak that made us comfortable and feel that we were smelling something Spanish, by which we meant “quite like Rioja”. The taste was also recognisable, with great balance, alcohol at 13%, some oak, liquorice and a “furry” finish. Furry finish after six years - I always try and "cellar-out" a furry or grouty feel, so may be it's not too furry then. |
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| Author: | meljones [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Spanish, non-Rioja Reds |
grouty? love it! |
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