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Author:  Goosegogs [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:56 pm ]
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What is the best sub £10 Bordeaux red in the shops today.

Majestic/Waitrose excluded As I would have to buy 12 and am out of room.

Suppose I could invite Bacchus over for a game of Poker.

That should clear some space. :roll:
Author:  Bacchus [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MrD
...from your wallet you mean I s'pose...
Author:  Goosegogs [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:04 pm ]
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You'd probably skin me alive. I'm a hopeless poker player. Snooker or pool and i'd have a fair chance.

But not poker

Oh no
Author:  Duncan [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MrD
Goosegogs wrote:
What is the best sub £10 Bordeaux red in the shops today.
Majestic/Waitrose excluded As I would have to buy 12 and am out of room.



To exclude them as well as Laithaites.

Goose, I'm very sorry, I just dont know.

If there is a wine list online for Sainsbury's somewhere, I am happy to advise the possibility of a good-un.

I will look around later. Are you in a hurry to know ?

You can buy six at Majestic and mix as well with your SB requirements or mix with a friend.

My favourite House claret at the moment is one from Maj. ....Hmmnn - I've haven't disclosed this to the rabble out there who buy up our recommendations have I ? We go back for more and find it's all gone.
OK - on a multi buy 2 or more, 8 knicker a bottle, distress parcel.

C h a t e a u L a c h e s n a y e cru bourgeois
H a u t M e d o c 2003

search engine should not find it. white font - Do a Quote to find the name and then delete your quote.

So If drinking straight away - decant for an hour, and serve at room temperature in wide bulbous glasses. Exceptional value, charming flavour, its all in there, mature and ready, but will keep to 2011, shortish but sweet finish
Author:  Bacchus [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:37 pm ]
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Cunning stuff Mr D. I use the same technique in spreadsheets sometimes. Unfortunately you have mentioned it b4...ooops, and there aint none on the M site.
Author:  Goosegogs [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:26 pm ]
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Thanks, Dunc.

I am just wondering why red Bordeaux is the bees knees of still wine. I thought I would start with the best of the sub £10 stuff and work my way up.

I know that own label claret is going to be junk by comparison but I was sufficently impressed by the humble Sainsbury offering to be curious.

I will put up a list of what the supermarkets have tomorrow.

Best

G
Author:  Bacchus [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:46 pm ]
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You might try Bouchard Aine PN (Sains), a Chianti Riserva (black cock), or maybe the Ravenswood Zin (has to be "old vines"). I'm half way through one of these...

http://www.dancingbullwines.com/index.html#
Author:  Duncan [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:51 pm ]
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Bacchus wrote:
Cunning stuff Mr D. I use the same technique in spreadsheets sometimes. Unfortunately you have mentioned it b4...ooops, and there aint none on the M site.



Sir, it is in the warehouse in some locations, and on the till computer a week ago. If you try, please enjoy
Author:  Bacchus [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:57 pm ]
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Roger that, control. Will sneak into my 2 M's on Sunday if there is any room left in the vroom.
Author:  GK [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:56 am ]
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Goosegogs wrote:
I am just wondering why red Bordeaux is the bees knees of still wine.


Its not. Certainly not sub-£10 high street stuff, its mosty ballast water.

Bordeaux has been living on its name for far too long IMO. Look to the Rhone and Southern French reds (languedoc, roussillon) for QPR.
Author:  Duncan [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:20 am ]
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GK wrote:
Goosegogs wrote:
I am just wondering why red Bordeaux is the bees knees of still wine.


Its not. Certainly not sub-£10 high street stuff, its mosty ballast water.

Bordeaux has been living on its name for far too long IMO. Look to the Rhone and Southern French reds (languedoc, roussillon) for QPR.


I was hoping you may respond GK. The best House claret prices are reserved for the residents of France - period.

I have had to suffer a huge amount of angst in recent years to find a charming claret in this price range in the Uk.

2004 Cheap bordeaux blend in our supermarkets was horrid. 2001 cheapo was not very nice as well. Good 2002 PC ones if you looked around hard.

2003 Calvet blends and loads of other petite Petite chateau were quite nice.
2005 Calvet blend and Calvet Medoc blend from Waitrose was nice when ready late 2008, the 2006 in mid 2009 not so good on its own.

In France there are wonderful Cote de Blaye and Bourg, and Graves de Vayres which are lovely for much less that this budget, having tax adjusted by 30%.

The Euro is strong - the pound is pathetic this year.

You have to mature the claret for my enjoyent - people want to buy and drink, people don't drink claret with the right food.

Too Much to say, the comment goes on and on. The UK supermarkets can't be bothered with it these days - which is a pitty. I have no idea what their mark-up is - But judging from old E.Leclerk Foire aux Vins leaflets - you'd be rightly pi**ed off.

IMHO - You cant make Heinz 59 varieties year-in and year-out in Bordeaux.
Author:  Goosegogs [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:55 pm ]
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Off to Tesco so i'll start here.

Château Reysson Haut Médoc 2005
Chateau Mourlet Graves 2003 ( This one is supposedly half price £16 down to £8 )
Author:  GK [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:02 pm ]
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Tesco? How about Chateau Clos Renon? Bordeaux Superior.

I enjoyed the '05 but havent tried any later vintages.
Author:  Duncan [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:08 pm ]
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GK wrote:
Tesco? How about Chateau Clos Renon? Bordeaux Superior.

I enjoyed the '05 but havent tried any later vintages.



Chateau Mourlet Graves 2003 - Worth a punt , very safe with regard to drying out (bitter Brett taking over the fruit) and will not be furry at all in the mouth. Should not be lacey yet.

Clos Renon 05 is fine.
I would not endorse '06 without trying 1st, Most of the cheap 2006's I've sampled has had a drying, tannin and tobacco butts (not sweet pipe tobacco) and grounts finish. This nasty end does dissipate over a few years with some => due to evolution of ripe'ish fruit, BUT, with others it gets worse *.

*vaguely bitter, mouldy conckers brett is how I would descride it.
Author:  Goosegogs [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:14 pm ]
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Thanks.

Off now. Will seek out all 3. GK's tip wasn't listed online but it might be in stock.
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