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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:03 am 
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The Wine Society give reliable tasting notes. Their members won't accept bull. Google it, to see what they say

GK wrote a note about a Leyda SB, sometime ago

Mel said that a 2004 from Oddbins was OK for £7.49 but no tropical fruit notes mentioned

This Guy wrote a piece about Vina Leyda, a wine from M&S @£6.99 two years ago, some Pineapple notes: Otherwise - Citrus, cut grass, Gooseberry
http://www.ciao.co.uk/Secano_Estate_Sau ... ew_5688191

Leyda Chardonnay appears to figure bigger on the bloggs.

Anybody ?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:52 pm 
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Possibly my favourite wine from M&S is their Leyda Valley's Secano Estate Pinot Noir.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:48 pm 
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GK wrote:
Possibly my favourite wine from M&S is their Leyda Valley's Secano Estate Pinot Noir.


Cheers GK, - Shezza wanted to know all about Leyda Sauvignon Blanc. He wants some reliable tasting notes.

The veg garden is responding very well to this sunny April :) Been cutting asparagus as thick as your middle finger - Beats the hell out of that imported stringy tatseless muck from Peru / Kenya :qofyuk: . I have tried to ban my Misses from buying it in the Winter.

I'd put money in those growers Charity Box and save them the airfreight and polution.

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The St Georges mushrooms are out, delicious!


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:38 pm 
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GK wrote:
The St Georges mushrooms are out, delicious!


Shove a picture up here, I don't know how to recognise them, I see what looks like an open mushroom at the base of an old Plum tree. More delicate and much lighter gills than a commercial white button, also the stem is finer and a bit taller - Are these St Georges on St Georges day no less .

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:19 am 
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Here you go, google is your friend...

http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en ... a=N&tab=wi

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"The True Mushroom
St Georges may be less well known than ceps, girolles or morels, but they definitely rank amongst the finest wild mushrooms, with a firm texture, appealing mealy smell and distinctive flavour, reminiscent of soil and wood smoke. In France it’s known as le vrai mouserron, “the true mushroom”.

Cooking St George’s Mushrooms
They’ve an affinity with chicken and eggs, as well as those other seasonal Spring delicacies, asparagus and hop shoots. It’s hard to beat a simple but exquisite St George and asparagus omelette. (Or use them in just about any mushroom recipe.)

Where They Grow
St Georges grow in a wide variety of habitats, from woodland to pasture, but are particularly fond of chalk grassland. I’ve found them on sites as various as London’s Hyde Park, Salisbury Plain, Newmarket Heath and on Suffolk lawns and commons.

Besides their sublime flavour, St Georges have the great advantage of growing in quantity. They often form rings in grassland, the subterranean fungal body growing from a central point and sending up its fruiting bodies (the mushrooms that spread the spores) around the perimeter each year.

Rings can be of almost any size - I’ve seen them from a hand’s span to several dozen metres across. There are rumours of giant rings half a mile wide or more! A good sized ring can produce several kilos of mushrooms.

The rings - of yellowing and darker grass together - are often clearly visible from a distance and a helpful guide to the location of the mushrooms. Up close they can be completely hidden under long grass - as an Italian mushroom hunter once told me, you need eyes on the ends of your fingers to find them.

Identification
As with all wild mushrooms, be absolutely sure of a positive identification before eating anything. St Georges can be confused with poisonous varieties of Inocybe and Entolama fungi."[/img]




Here’s a couple of images I have taken of mushrooms found in the woods near me.-

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These are Oyster, usually found on dead / dying trees. When you find them you will usually get two crops a year for several years or more so a good find in an quite spot is worth keeping to yourself.

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More Oyster and some Velvet Shank.

I had a lovely omelette last night, St Georges, a little garlic and chilli, seasoning, fresh salad, crusty bread and a glass of homebrew. St Georges are called just that because they appear around St Georges day, you wont find them at any other time of the year- this aids identification.

Remember- If you are not absolutely sure, leave them well alone!!!


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:28 am 
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Duncan wrote:
Cheers GK, - Shezza wanted to know all about Leyda Sauvignon Blanc. He wants some reliable tasting notes.

Thanks for asking Duncan. Gonna hold off on the quest for SB now and wait til the Decanter New World tasting on 9th May. Good few prodducers rom NZ and Chile will be there so will see if I have any joy ffinding anything worth a mention.
Have to say tho, I think I might be headed more in the way of Riesling now having enjoyed Tesco's Mosel & Tingleup Rieslings (got a bottle of each ready and waiting for tonight's poker game.... 8) ) Also have a St Halletts Poachers Blend to have another go at now I'm not all bunged up like the last time I tried it.


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Possibly my favourite wine from M&S is their Leyda Valley's Secano Estate Pinot Noir.

GK, I'd be interested to hear more about the Secano Estate PN. Hoping to open one of the Villa Maria Cellar Selection PN I have this weekend to go with Roast duck on Sunday
Also bought a bottle of TF Yarra Valley PN last night to confirm it is as good as at the tasting a few weeks back (Got a very good review from Mel back in 2008 when tasting the whole TF range)


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:38 am 
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Shezza- I have previously bought a case of the '04 & '05, Ive not tried any of the later vintages. Sadly I have none left, both vintages were delicious and would probaly be better now with a bit of aging if I had not glugged it all already :D

Mels note-
http://ccgi.quaffersoffers.co.uk/QOforu ... ght=secano


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:19 pm 
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GK wrote:
[i]"The True Mushroom
St Georges may be less well known than ceps, girolles or morels, but they definitely rank amongst the finest wild mushrooms, with a firm texture, appealing mealy smell and distinctive flavour, reminiscent of soil and wood smoke. In France it’s known as le vrai mouserron, “the true mushroom”.

Cooking St George’s Mushrooms
They’ve an affinity with chicken and eggs, as well as those other seasonal Spring delicacies, asparagus and hop shoots. It’s hard to beat a simple but exquisite St George and asparagus omelette. (Or use them in just about any mushroom recipe.)

Where They Grow
St Georges grow in a wide variety of habitats, from woodland to pasture, but are particularly fond of chalk grassland. I’ve found them on sites as various as London’s Hyde Park, Salisbury Plain, Newmarket Heath and on Suffolk lawns and commons.

Besides their sublime flavour, St Georges have the great advantage of growing in quantity. They often form rings in grassland, the subterranean fungal body growing from a central point and sending up its fruiting bodies (the mushrooms that spread the spores) around the perimeter each year.

Rings can be of almost any size - I’ve seen them from a hand’s span to several dozen metres across. There are rumours of giant rings half a mile wide or more! A good sized ring can produce several kilos of mushrooms.

The rings - of yellowing and darker grass together - are often clearly visible from a distance and a helpful guide to the location of the mushrooms. Up close they can be completely hidden under long grass - as an Italian mushroom hunter once told me, you need eyes on the ends of your fingers to find them.

Identification
As with all wild mushrooms, be absolutely sure of a positive identification before eating anything. St Georges can be confused with poisonous

I had a lovely omelette last night, St Georges, a little garlic and chilli, seasoning, fresh salad, crusty bread and a glass of homebrew. St Georges are called just that because they appear around St Georges day, you wont find them at any other time of the year- this aids identification.

Remember- If you are not absolutely sure, leave them well alone!!!


Many many thanks GK, The 1st image is a dead ringer for the few that I have peeking out of the grass, although mine are more silvery in the light, with only a slight beige hue here and there on the cap. Shall I leave them to build up the spores in that area ? I may do just that, and in the meantime, I shall get a definitive ID on them.
Thank you once again :)

Great pictures of fungus, the old golden plum - a Victorian tree had a custard fungus on the main trunk in the shape of clams for two years (I would remove it each year to try and save the tree) before the main part of the tree came down in gales two years ago. The core of the tree had turned a mahogany colour and whatever fungus had taken over this old girl, had turned the core wood into cubic pieces, so that it was brittle and broke up like a car wind screen as soon as it started swaying in the south westerlies.

My dear Misses use to make the homebrew, and I'd do the dry hopping with Fuggles flowers and the battonage and fining and syphoning and racking. One year when we were warming up for the Reading CAMRA festival. We started off here with some saved 2 year old that was lurking in the larder in old cyder quarts - the black screw and rubber flange kind.....a style long gone, and after consuming them - we never went further than the back garden to lounge in some deck chairs, that I'd bought years before at an auction in Skegness. I dont know :wink: Just a tad lethal that stuff.

The Mangetout have just burst through - everything is set faire - now to say one's prayers, in what ever way works for you.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:18 pm 
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GK wrote:
Shezza- I have previously bought a case of the '04 & '05, Ive not tried any of the later vintages. Sadly I have none left, both vintages were delicious and would probaly be better now with a bit of aging if I had not glugged it all already


Shezza:

Follow GK's advice for good affordable wines - He always seems to find wonderful bargains, Whilst I specialise in particular regions, and my heart rules my head for Cote d'Or as you know....... so I keep going back in search of that illusive burgundy that does not exist for every day enjoyment. The Lupe Cholet is about the closest I've come to a sub £10 true one for quite a while.

The Cono Sur ones are truely diabolical to my palate - If I wanted to suck Tunes and at 14% vol :(

Mel has very similar taste buds to mine :roll: - Her Star notes endorse exactly the same charateristics with PN as I look for - so I will look out for this Chilean pinot, made in the burgundy style, which will NOW be twice the amount that GK paid. I always mature PN if it is possible, and IMHO has potential, that way I get a little closer to the dimensions that I crave.

I will probably go back for more Stonewall 2007. I've not seen any more VM Cellar Selection 2007 on Offer since January. Maven at Tesco for £6 on Offer - Anybody know - it's been on offer for months :?:

For Riesling - I only know the Amisfield NZ demi sec which was an import and very luscious indeed, but probably big money, it certainly tasted that way.

Shezza, after the Decanter New World tasting - please report back.

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I used to think the Cono Sur stuff was great for everyday drinking but now not so much: bit too sweet and fruity like you say. I like a bit of an oak element to my wine which is probably why I'm still finding I return to chardonnay for whites - for me you can't beat the creamy, nutty, biscuity flavours that come from a nice Meursault etc. (New world chard tend to be a bit ott from the ones I have had)
anyway, going off on a tangent there.... you're right about cono sur and being a bit like tunes, I'm not so impressed any more by the basic stuff. Quite liked the 20 barrels but that is fairly heavily oaked (14 months according to website but tastes like more) and needs to lay down a while (also not an every dayer for £20 !)

Has anyone (meaning Goose) tried the latest Stoneleigh MSB ?

Previous vintage (2004 IIRC) had reports of tropical flavours by goose

Current Oddbins tasting notes focus more to tropical fruits too:
Oddbins wrote:
Tasting Notes : The nose displays intense passionfruit and stone fruit aromas, with background mineral notes. The palate has tropical fruit and passionfruit with a touch of dry grass. It is full and rounded with a succulent mouth-feel and viscosity, balanced with crisp acidity.

Also reviews at Love that wine dot co dot uk mention tropical flavours too

On offer at Waitrose to 12th May at £6.70


and of course will submit what I can from the decanter tasting (if I can decipher the drunken scribbles through the wine sloshed all over the pages :D )


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Regarding the 20 Barrels range, Ive been mulling this deal over for a couple of days...

http://www.tesco.com/winestore/controll ... escriptors

It has the Pinot Noir for £11, plus the highly rated SB. Tempted...


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GK wrote:
Regarding the 20 Barrels range, Ive been mulling this deal over for a couple of days...

http://www.tesco.com/winestore/controll ... escriptors

It has the Pinot Noir for £11, plus the highly rated SB. Tempted...


The website is down for maintenance and improvement on Friday night - Hmmn - During a wine festival !

They say check back on Monday.

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I like a bit of an oak element to my wine which is probably why I'm still finding I return to chardonnay for whites - for me you can't beat the creamy, nutty, biscuity flavours that come from a nice Meursault etc.

Right - Check this out: As I have advised affordable 2007 Cote d'Or reds with fragrange and finesse at less than say £14.99 are just not going to be on the shelves in the UK - a No No I'm affraid. The expensive and illustrious Nuits Villages were made lighter, what does that tell you about the stuff around the perimeter ? I've no real idea about Beaune's I have no sampled yet.

But the whites can score in boutique Domaines: Not bulk stuff:-


http://www.jancisrobinson.com/articles/a200901193.html

Now to the tip for you:

http://www.majestic.co.uk/find/product-is-04057

This 2007 Saint Veran made it into The Robert Parker 90 Plus Club.

And - I agree with them.

I have sampled it at a branch tasting: Creamy sophistication, nuts will come later I hope, Good acidity, Not too oaked - discreet, but there for structure and dimension, half demi-sec exit, so no drying out probs with cellaring for a while - Yummy mouth feel at £9.99 on a multi. Not ready yet, my prediction is that it will drink miles above its class and price position for a 2007 when ready. Who has this wine ?

I do Now - Nicely tucked away in a re-cylced wooden six bot case.

Has anyone (meaning Goose) tried the latest Stoneleigh MSB ?

Previous vintage (2004 IIRC) had reports of tropical flavours by goose

On offer at Waitrose to 12th May at £6.70[/size]


Thanks for the Waitrose tip - although as yet - No MSB evaluation from Goose.

Goose is conspicious by his Absence.
Lawyers have served an injunction, he has described Tat too graphically :wink: .

Enjoy your week-end folks

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:07 pm 
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Stoneleigh is a Montana wine and was pretty good in 2005 but has gone downhill since. The 2007 had 13.5% alcohol and it showed with a bit of spirit on the finiah.

Nice if you like blackcurrent leaf/cat's pee vodka.

Avoid.

Can anyone recommend a really good Provence rose without having to pay Bandol prices.

How about a Provence tasting session, Mel. They have a style of their own and are quite different from other Southern French rose


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