Hi G,
Thanks for that link, Mr Cooper is actually tasting that vintage, and his comments fit with Bob C. & Nick Scott, other scores listed are for different years, not relevant ! I'm not sure why RP's tasting professional does not get it. I'm rather pleased that we concur with the profs for this 2012, sometimes I confuse my own palate due to expectation, price and wishful thinking
and need to get back to the wine later to be sure.
Best 2016, 4 years laying down, if in the right conditions of course. How much evo occurs and at what ambient temperatures, is always a bu**er for us to work out.
Do you remember the Vavasour '09, the bottle with the gold cockerrel on the white label, that won the Decanter gold and at only £7 or so when on offer. . . . you do. I have one in the wine cooler to take this Autumn. Will report back here.
Talking about a note of cabbage "reductive" SB from that producer in Pouilly Fume'. Because the bouquet you said was Jaw Droppingly good, I would have guessed
not reductive winemaking. I only guess this, because that requires inert gases to be pumped into stainless steel tanks to expel all the air in the fermentation process, so that the polymers required for fermentation are starved of oxygen and the resulting aroma can be a bit sulpured, like over boiled eggs. These smells in theory should swirl out, if the wine is good. It's a big IF though.
My little experience of the 2011 Loire harvest at cheapo level, less money than the one you posted last night, says that the grapes struggled to ripen and were sodden at important times during the run-up to Harvest. To remove all the mold from the damaged crop takes labour intensive inspection that very few producers can afford. You said the '11 Sancerres had a note and feel of a jelly (chemical setting agent) like soapiness. Reductive SB is short of texture, and therefore acidity feels higher, racking off the wine from the lees allows some oxygen to improve (in my view) the pleasure, depth and complexity on the tongue.
Having said that stuff , a tiny bit of grey mold added to a drop of sulphur / silage clamp aroma = a composting cabbage note that could have dissolved in the wine at some point in the process. With french chardonnay of which I am more familiar, it is more like freshly cut hay that has been put in a bailing machine for a few days.
It is all pretty speculative, and I certainly would not be sure, even if I were supping the wine with you. If the cabbage is not sweet and crunchy, I guess it may spoil, whilst hay if mixed with wild flowers can be very nice for a while.
Beauty is in the eye of the . . . . . . . . . .
Cheers for now