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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:05 pm 
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We have been taking a pop at Monsieur Jadot recently.

However, with the quality of 2009 fruit reported to be so good in the Mâconnaise, it is time to see if his empire can still make decent wine at an affordabe price.

This is from Budgen's and ex Somerfield stores, reduced from £9.39 to £7 on offer.

Good and affordable white burgundy, nice and fresh for £7.00. Quite evolved and integrated already and with a lovely ripeness and mouth feel, plus balanced acidity. Not a lot of minerallity, but that is more than compensated by the unmistakable flavour of ripe and juicy Mâcon with a bit of length, and, not thin either !

Drink chilled starting at 9C and warming to 12C during the course of your supper. Very good with cheese and onion pasties, runner beans lashings of butter and new pots. A good wine for a vegetarian supper

Yep - This '09 Macon is good, drink now and enjoy - Keeping will be a mistake, take while the wine is still energetic. It tastes more expensive than this :) The best basic Villages example from him for many a year.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:36 pm 
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The 2009 Macon Aze is on offer in Waitrose at £7.49. Is this a different wine?

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Do you mean we, as a forum, have been having a (-ve) go at Jadot, or you as a family, have been having a (+ve) go at Jadot.

I rate their Bourgogne Chardonnay, but am interested to hear that the Macon is good. I haven't seen a Budgens for years.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:47 pm 
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meljones wrote:
Do you mean we, as a forum, have been having a (-ve) go at Jadot, or you as a family, have been having a (+ve) go at Jadot. I rate their Bourgogne Chardonnay, but am interested to hear that the Macon is good. I haven't seen a Budgens for years.



We on the forum and me and my two burgundy loving friends.

Mel......You said this recently:

We had three Louis Jadot wines and the panel liked the cheapest, a Mâcon, most. Louis Jadot, Mâcon, Les Roches Rouges 2008 is £9.99 in Majestic or £7.49 if you buy two. It had quite a sweet smell – like very ripe cherries and with a hint of popcorn. It’s a young and fruity number – great for the summer – but the feel is linear, bordering on the simple. I gave it rather low marks, but the panel seemed to love it.

Louis Jadot’s Côte de Beaune Villages 2007, which is £10.99 in Sainsbury’s and £11.49 in Waitrose, had a pretty typical aroma. It was fragrant, with some cherry, but a little earthy as well. During the evening it picked up some curry spice. The taste was fine, but disappointing if you were hoping that spending eleven quid on 2007 Burgundy was going to give you something fascinating. It’s perfectly fine for a summer lunch and it’s nice, but it hasn’t even started to get interesting.

You’d need to be loaded and buy quite a lot and then try it at three monthly intervals until it started to get interesting, and then go for it. There seems little point when Les Mouchottes and Réserve de la Basion are cheaper and, well, just better.

The real disappointment of the evening was the Jadot Gevrey Chambertin 2007, which is around £27.59 at Dickens House, Eagle Wines, Hailsham Cellars, Peckams and Taurus Wines. The smell was very definitely Pinot. Just as expected – young, but ripe, strawberry. However the mouth feel was very gentle, which isn’t exactly what I was expecting from a Gevrey, and it was dry and short. Once we’d uncovered them I went back to it and tried to find some depth, some beauty, but it was simple and short.

The pop me and my friends have been taking is for:
1)Bourgogne rouge '06 and '07 which was over dry and dull, no cherry fruit, and deserved to be punished ,
2) A rubbish Beaujolais villages 2008 with no gamay fruit or fragrance - dried out as well - the 07 was pretty dull, and a waste of money. Combe aux Jacques '08 ..lacked vital spark. Dry and a bit tart without enough fruit in the middle.
3) A Beaune rouge 1er on '06, a generic mix, not at all satisfying, thin, short, boring, no fragrance - whereas - Chanson Bastion 1er, although a quid or so more, was most engaging and a lot more concentrated- and showed up the LJ as if it was an ordinary Hautes-côtes de Beaune from a supermarket.
4) 18 months ago - A gum numbing Morgon on the '04 was dire. I think we tipped it down the sink.

At the sub £12 mark, LJ's Bourgogne blancs have been better in recent years. I'm very pleased with his Macon Villages '09.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:56 pm 
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tribs wrote:
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The 2009 Macon Aze is on offer in Waitrose at £7.49. Is this a different wine?


Yes, it is from LJ's Aze vineyards I would imagine

A bit of learning for the Maconaisse

http://burgundywineman.blogspot.com/201 ... lages.html

He liked another villages wine as well - Only saw his opinion today. When considering the LJ villages above, it is made from fruit from three different areas in the region. It is very nice - Trust me

The '09 vintage in Macon is reported to be successful all over the region. I must try more of them.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:29 pm 
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The '08 Azé and village were, to me, soapy and not pleasant. I gather that '09 is a whole new kettle of ball games, so I'll invest some more wine tokens in these tomorrow

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:38 am 
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meljones wrote:
I haven't seen a Budgens for years.


Right - more about Budgens.

The store I went to was in Broadstone Dorset. In a parade of shops where a Somerfield store was once and a carpet shop next door that has been acquired by Tesco Express.
Knowing that Tesco muscle-in, and bypass planning by buying trad Hardware / Carpet stores on a parade, I immediately chose to go in to the Budgens. We need balance in the retail food industry.

Glad I did.

In the store, Budgens had the Peter Lehmann Barrossa Shiraz 2005 for £5.69, for a small outfit, that is pretty competetive, I'd say.

The star of their offers in my opinion, that could be of interest to Tribs and MM Richard was this:

http://www.thewinedoctor.com/bordeaux/c ... emme.shtml

The 1999 was on offer at £10.89, and that is pretty good value for a mature Haut Medoc claret that is peeking just now. Ch, Caronne-Ste-Gemme is one of the best CB's in the Saint Laurent. It is a cru bourgeoise exceptional, keeps very well, and with an assertive flavour. When I've enjoyed Caronne, it has quite a St Julien note when mature, and for £10.89 not bad, Yeah ! For a supper wine to present at table this October, pretty good.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:21 pm 
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Duncan wrote:

Yep - This '09 Macon is good, drink now and enjoy - Keeping will be a mistake, take while the wine is still energetic. It tastes more expensive than this :) The best basic Villages example from him for many a year.


This is the wine at Budgens for £7.00
http://www.majestic.co.uk/find/keyword- ... t-is-04117

Kick Majestic into touch on this one, save £2 per bottle, and nip round to Budgens PDQ - if you have one near you.

Must be the 2009

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If that is Broadstone, Poole, you are very close to 4 or 5 of the best chip shops in the S of England

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I have found there is a Budgens not too far from the office. Next nearest is hundreds of miles away it would seem. I will take a trip there next time I get chance.

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Same here, closest is 8 miles. None for ages after that. Looked in today, but it's a mini one being a petrol station. They didn't have it.

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I tried this last night alongside the Macon Aze. Both very similar in flavour, almost identical. Both have a wonderful nose, very clean and slightly floral with a touch of honey which is evident in the taste also. Both too have a wonderful mouthfeel, reminded me of a good Vouvray but not as sweet. The Aze edged it for me having the stronger nose and more body.

The quality of the 09 fruit is very evident, but there is no doubt great skill was involved in the winemaking. It'll be interesting how the 09 fruit fares further up the ladder.

The Villages offer at Budgens is over now. I managed to bag the last 1999 Caronne Ste Gemme also.

The Macon Aze is on offer until Tuesday at Waitrose.

I'm not sure that maj LJ Villages wine is the same. The label is different. Maybe re-labelled for majestic.

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tribs wrote:
It'll be interesting how the 09 fruit fares further up the ladder.

The Villages offer at Budgens is over now. I managed to bag the last 1999 Caronne Ste Gemme also.

The Macon Aze is on offer until Tuesday at Waitrose.

I'm not sure that maj LJ Villages wine is the same. The label is different. Maybe re-labelled for majestic.


I'm very pleased that you liked that Macon blanc village, in the way that I found it such a joy for the dosh. I sincerely hope my sister has bagged some in Broadstone, after my call on Tuesday. She lives round the corner and there was none round here - it needed to be a big budgens - an ex Somerfield store.

No Caronne-Ste-Gemme up here either :cry: . Good score.

I am of exactly the same view as you about the quality '09 chardonnay fruit in the Maconaise, that was very concentrated this year They nearly suffered a drought and the vines dug deep into the terroire.
A great year for depth of flavour, and moving up the tree could provide some fancy white burgundy at affordable prices.
The important growers, although complaining about the yield and weight of fruit, said that the crop was perfect and no sorting had to be done on table de trie nor any spraying. The top notch domaines in the Challonaise will have pruned for perfection of upper fruit.

It bodes well for lovers of affordable white burgundy. I'm looking forward to taking a few upscale ones for the rack and next Spring.

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