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| Author: | Shezza [ Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Peter Lehmann the Barossa Shiraz 2008 |
Little disappointed Was hoping for more deep, chocolatey shiraz Drinking nicely now though in terms of smoothness, not overly tannic Best drunk over next couple of years, not a mid-long termer |
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| Author: | GK [ Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Peter Lehmann the Barossa Shiraz 2008 |
Ive often thought that basic Oz Shiraz in the £4~£9 range lacks depth and power, nice but dim. I prefer a blend if I have a choice, you get a little more wallop for your money. |
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| Author: | tribs [ Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Peter Lehmann the Barossa Shiraz 2008 |
I really liked the '06 a couple months back. Mind you that's got a couple of years on this one. I wonder what happened to the '07. Maybe the droughts in that year meant there was not enough fruit. I think you might be right, GK. I can think of quite a number of good Oz shiraz blends under a tenner. |
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| Author: | Shezza [ Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Peter Lehmann the Barossa Shiraz 2008 |
I tend to find that the Shiraz often over powers most of the of varieties in a blend Then I haven't had the PL Clancy's yet or the Penfolds 76... Still have to try one of the WR/St Halletts Barossa 2008 that I've had a little while. Mel said to give it some time so might just decanter a while or drink over a few days |
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| Author: | Duncan [ Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Peter Lehmann the Barossa Shiraz 2008 |
It is not just me then ! I rated the Clancy '06, so I grabbed a few '06 Barossa Shiraz in the Spring when on offer The last one I had, was one dimensional, not entertaining, just Shiraz and a bit gluey, and I thought ...Huh ....may be not ready, perhaps I'm getting finicky, and expect too much. No depth, no iron or peppery liquorish root, not tannic enough ! Just rather ordinary and a bit commercial. Sorry Tribs, not rated by me - but may be you never had the excellent '02, the good '04 and the brill '98 That '06 shiraz was half a mile away from the '02 ans '04's, Do I have rose tinted spectacles ? Probably. Is PL making commercial quick ready shiraz ? Probably Peter Lehmann has been sifting out his best fruit for upscale low volume, premium specials. I'm pretty sure I've said this already here, just cant find the posting at the moment. However....and ... regretably, this deterioration in selection, and therefore the resultant ready now quality of the wine may be something we will have to lump or leave. I'm not buying the '08 - sorry and all that. |
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| Author: | GK [ Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Peter Lehmann the Barossa Shiraz 2008 |
The Ausies can make some delicious, fruity, light to medium bodied Shiraz's built for a quick drink. These I enjoy, I like the peppery bright fruit and off-sweet character, uncomplicated and easy on the oak with good acidity, almost Italian in style. Here is a nice example of the style and one of the best I've had recently- M&S Link |
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| Author: | Duncan [ Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Peter Lehmann the Barossa Shiraz 2008 |
Yep GK agreed, That is another style, oldies like me use to know Mr Lehmann for something else. I do like the spice and savoury cut and peppery finish that tingles the tongue on the medium weight shiraz - more like ripe french crozes and Saint Joe, but I thought that the last PL Barossa '06 drunk here was a bit sweet as well - lots of decanting could help |
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| Author: | Shezza [ Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Peter Lehmann the Barossa Shiraz 2008 |
GK, have you had any more of the Mitolo Jester Shiraz? That was the last cheaper offering that I really enjoyed Sadly it's not so widely available apart from online |
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| Author: | GK [ Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Peter Lehmann the Barossa Shiraz 2008 |
No mate, but my local Indy sells it if ever I feel the need. This is made in a big style with a whack of dried grapes for extra body and umph. Once you move up into the £10+ shiraz wines the Ausies start putting their backs into it a little, and it shows. |
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