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| Author: | wizzywoo [ Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Casillero del Diablo Carmènere 2008 - Majestic £4.99 |
Dark fruit, chocolate, coffee and tobacco combine to give a rich flavour, would be an excellent wine if it had more body to it but at £4.99 you can't complain too much. If Casillero del Diablo are making wine with this much flavour then the Winemaker's Lot Carmènere should be a treat. 
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| Author: | wizzywoo [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Casillero del Diablo Carmènere 2008 - Majestic £4.99 |
Update on this one - either it's my palate or variations in the quality but the last bottle I tried of this was spot on - deep brambly plummy fruit and the decanter silver award suddenly made sense. Deserving of a 
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| Author: | meljones [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Casillero del Diablo Carmènere 2008 - Majestic £4.99 |
Have agreed with you in the past. Lovely ripe raspberry aroma – typical of Carmenère. Definitely sweet and darkly fruity, with some plain chocolate. Pretty good. 08/10/2008 |
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| Author: | meljones [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Casillero del Diablo Carmènere 2008 - Majestic £4.99 |
Just gone down to £4.99 in Co-op, as well. This was on the Co-op blurb Made by Marcelo Papa, Concha y Toro’s highly talented head winemaker, and produced from fruit sourced in the Rapel Valley, it is a blend of 85% Carmenère and 15% Cabernet Sauvignon, 70% of which was aged in American oak barrels for eight months. Chocolate, coffee and spice combine with raspberries, blackberries and soft tannins, resulting in a full-bodied, but velvety smooth red. Ideally serve by a warm fire or by the barbeque at night with any red meat dish or a spicy aubergine bake |
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| Author: | GK [ Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Casillero del Diablo Carmènere 2008 - Majestic £4.99 |
I’m often cautious when it comes to Carmenere, have been disappointed many times in the past. The grape needs to be super-ripe, anything less results in a nagging bitterness in the finish. The fruit for this wine is grown in the Rapel Valley, a well made example will be meaty and herbal, smooth and dense. I will buy this over the weekend. |
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| Author: | GK [ Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Casillero del Diablo Carmènere 2008 - Majestic £4.99 |
Opened last night. Some smoked herb and bitter chocky, nicely balanced with a solid creamy texture. No real depth but very good for the dosh. At £4.99 it gets one from me too...
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| Author: | tribs [ Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Casillero del Diablo Carmènere 2008 - Majestic £4.99 |
I opened one of these last night after being disappointed with Organic Bosquets de la Dame CdR 2008 from M&S which I had opened the night before. I can only echo what has been said before regarding the tasting. CyT have a knack at producing wines of great balance. The sweetness, fruit flavour and oak is always just right. My only criticism of this range is if you do not drink in one sitting then the sweetness tends to dominate and the oak almost disappears. Does this hint towards some trickery here? Anyway, with the Diablo reds you cannot really go wrong for the money. I can't think of anyone who does a better job at this level. |
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| Author: | Duncan [ Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Casillero del Diablo Carmènere 2008 - Majestic £4.99 |
tribs wrote: I opened one of these last night after being disappointed with Organic Bosquets de la Dame CdR 2008 from M&S which I had opened the night before.
After the opulent '07's and the juicy '09's, anything at this level in between is going to seem austere. It may come round, but it may dry out ! Take back for refund, if you bought a load. There are some lovely '09 CdRs still to be had. |
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| Author: | tribs [ Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Casillero del Diablo Carmènere 2008 - Majestic £4.99 |
'07 and '09 were certainly better vintages, but I have had other '08 Rhones that were fine. The fruit in the Bosquets is actually very good, but there is something on the finish which lets it down. I highly suspect the misuse of tired oak. If I'm correct, then it is a waste. With the right oak it could have been very good Ever the optimist, I am hoping for it to subside with a little time. |
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| Author: | Duncan [ Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Organic Bosquets de la Dame CdR 2008 from M&S |
tribs wrote: '07 and '09 were certainly better vintages, but I have had other '08 Rhones that were fine. The fruit in the Bosquets is actually very good, but there is something on the finish which lets it down. I highly suspect the misuse of tired oak. If I'm correct, then it is a waste. With the right oak it could have been very good
Ever the optimist, I am hoping for it to subside with a little time. Optimism is the way forward. I'm having trouble finding any decent offers on 2009 CdR. The Retailers are actually reading all the TN's out there - Damn it 
Yeah - Tired old oak messes-up the flavour. Most producers are up to speed on this though. I note from trawling though my "telephone directory" Decanter winners issue this month, that innovative wine makers in the NW are getting out the blow lamps and charring their barrels to add spicy smoke notes to their white wines - yeah, "think kippers versus herring"  A damn good way of organically ridding any unwanted fungi in the barrels.
I'm enjoying another wonderful Goldwater '10, although Vavasour '10 took the Decanter gold again. Vav'09 & Vav'07 were the very special QPR ones though. We get some of them right. |
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